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Date Posted:11/25/2012 06:03:36Copy HTML

Hi. I think this is my first post here- thanks for this board and your commitment to these cherished holiday traditions...   I understand that in 2001 the original Yule Log celluloid film was scanned to digital, color corrected and cleaned, but what was the video resolution of that original 2001 digital scan? Thanks.
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Date Posted:11/25/2012 06:59:10Copy HTML


Welcome to the message board, John.


The video resolution of the digitized Yule Log video is 1920 x 1080 pixels.



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Thanks Chip! So the original celluloid film was scanned to create a 1920 x 1080 digital video file in 2001?  If that is so, when the press release states that in 2003 it was upconverted to HD, what does that mean?
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No John, you had the date wrong in your post. In 2001 the original Yule Log footage film was only color corrected and cleaned. It was two years later, in 2003, that the program was up-converted (digitized) to High Definition.



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Chip - any idea if the Tribune Co. (or whomever these days) has looked into doing MOD discs of The Yule Log? It seems companies like WB and MGM have found a loophole in keeping licensing costs down if titles are released in this manner. Something along the lines of payments being low since large amounts don't have to be pressed.
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No Ben, they haven't. But right now Tribune is content to keep the program a "televised only" event. This way it will attract the maximum amount of viewers when it's aired. You have to remember that the program is shown commercial-free. So the least they can get in response to broadcasting it is the high Nielsen ratings. That would probably be diminished if it were available on home video -- or even worse, available on-demand via the cable companies. Keeping it this way makes it even more special when it's aired live.


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Date Posted:12/04/2012 05:23:44Copy HTML

Thanks again Chip. Sorry, I guess I assumed the information from the WPIX press release was correct: "In recent years, The Yule Log has been digitally re-mastered and fully restored. In 2001 the original film was color corrected and cleaned. In 2003, the Log was up-converted to High Definition and PIX11 now airs The Yule Log in HD."
http://www.wpix.com/news/wpix-yulelog-2012-1107,0,3519025.story

I assumed that color correction and cleaning is done in the digital domain, so I assumed that in 2001, the film had already been scanned to the digital domain. In addition, the word "up-converted" used in the press release typically means "enlarging" a lower source resolution to produce a false higher resolution, which is, as you know, is inferior to rescanning/redigitizing the celluloid film at a true higher resolution. (For instance, if the original film were scanned at 480p or 720p, upconverting it to 1080p would not actually a provide more resolution. Only a new scan of the celluloid film at 1080p or higher would provide true higher resolution for an HD broadcast.) The press release does not mention scanning or digitizing the celluloid film and you said earlier in this thread that the digitized yule log is 1080 by 1920 pixels, but I wanted to be sure whether that is a false "upconverted" resolution, or if that is the true resolution of the original scan/digitization of the celluloid film/negative.

Because I am interested in a specific history of film/video side of the Yule Log, I guess I am still confused about these three questions: 1) In what year (or years) was the original celluloid film or negative scanned to the digital domain? 2) What was the pixel resolution of the scan (or scans) done in those years? and 3) Was the 2001 color correction and cleaning done to the original celluloid film/negative, or was it done in the digital domain?

Sorry if I'm splitting hairs but I enjoy the details. Thanks once again!
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Re:Yule Log 2001 film scan resolution

Date Posted:12/05/2012 03:57:46Copy HTML


John,

I answered these various questions both in my response to your original email to me back on June 24, 2012; as well as in my
first two posts on this thread. I'll reiterate the answers one last time below:

1) 2003

2)
1920 x 1080

3) original c
elluloid film/negative


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Date Posted:12/05/2012 05:11:26Copy HTML

Thanks, that clears everything up. Again, I guess it was the use of the word "up-converted," instead of "scanned" or "digitized," used in your email and the WPIX press release, that led me to post here to gain full clarity. An itch that needed to be fully scratched as it were. I'm looking forward to finally viewing and recording it in true HD this year. Thanks again Chip.
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Re:Yule Log 2001 film scan resolution

Date Posted:12/27/2012 04:22:16Copy HTML

"Welcome to the message board, John. 


The video resolution of the digitized Yule Log video is 1920 x 1080 pixels."


Hey Chip,

I am curious...  I have a full HD (1920x1080) TV with DirecTV HD service and I still had the black vertical bars on the sides of the Yule Log broadcast.  I made sure that the HD receiver was in 1080 mode, but that didn't seem to be the issue.  Any idea of why this was the case??  Were those black bars intentionally added to make the video 1920x1080?  Did anyone else experience this as well?

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I don't know, Patrick; I'll have to check with engineering.


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Re:Yule Log 2001 film scan resolution

Date Posted:12/27/2012 01:53:31Copy HTML

Patrick,

It may have been something with DirecTV or what station you were able to view it on.  As I mentioned in the "Antenna TV gets seriously hacked thread" even though we get Antenna TV in 480i my viewing of The Yule Log was completely surrounded by black bars, but the regular programs filled the screen.  I don't want to rehash what I already said, but I included pictures of Antenna TV on both my Analog and HDTV.

So it most likely was the channel you were able to view it on or DirecTV didn't give you full HD ratio.  But that is just a guess.

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Date Posted:12/27/2012 11:50:15Copy HTML

The black bars are supposed to be there. The show was filmed for TV, so the aspect ratio would be 4:3 or academy ratio. Modern flatscreen hdtvs have an aspect ratio of 16:9. When something is shown in an aspect ratio other than 16:9, black bars will be present either on the sides (tv shows and movies shot in 4:3, 1.66:1, or smaller ratios from the silent days) or the top (movies with aspect ratios like1.85:1, 2:1, 2.20:1, or 2.35:1, etc). Some people insist on filling up their entire tv screen with the image, whether it should be or not -- I will not post my feelings about this as I don't want to start a fight or make someone feel badly or get banned from here.
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Re:Yule Log 2001 film scan resolution

Date Posted:12/28/2012 06:03:05Copy HTML


In my notes on the Yule Log that I have compiled over the years, I have it noted that chief engineer Joe Tolerico at WPIX had advised me that when the Yule Log was re-shot in 1970 it was filmed with an aspect ratio of 16:9, but cropped to 4:3.

As for the Antenna TV broadcast last Tuesday, station manager Tom Boyd told me that they were going to air on Antenna TV the HD version of the show that they were airing on local WGN-9 in Chicago. And since Antenna TV is broadcast in SD, I think that is why it ended up with the border around the picture.



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Date Posted:12/28/2012 03:43:12Copy HTML

Chip,

Do you know if WPIX broadcast 2 feeds, 1 in HD and 1 in SD?  Because I am only able to get the SD feed, and it filled the screen without the black all around the image on my SD Analog TV.

Regarding the reshoot in 1970.  If it was shot in 16:9, does that mean that they cropped it somehow while they were filming it? (such as using a matte or something on the lens) or did they do that after getting it ready for broadcast?

Which brings up another question, according to the Documentary "A Log's Life" it tells that a film canister was found in one of their vaults and was labeled "The Honeymooners - A  Dog's Life" and when they opened the canister, it was labeled "Fireplace" and it was the original film from the reshoot.  So here is my question, if that is the film that was "Cleaned and Color Corrected", wouldn't that still be in the 16:9 ratio?

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Yes, there are two feeds for broadcast: one for SD and one for HD.

As far as the cropping of the film to 4:3 aspect ratio, it was done after the re-shoot in post-production.

And the film that was found in the mismarked canister was the final badly edited 2-hour version of the program that existed at the time of its final airing in 1989.


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Date Posted:12/28/2012 09:39:45Copy HTML

Oh OK,

Thanks Chip,  I had thought that maybe it had been the entire original footage that they used for the 3-hour broadcast, but alas, it was post production and the badly edited 2-hour broadcast.  It's too bad that somehow, digitally they could start with the full view of the fireplace being that doesn't change on the pan-in or pan-out and some how get that into the 16:9 ratio, and then on the zoom in, superimpose it over the 16:9 ratio section of the fireplace with the logs burning, but I guess, technically it is still 4:3 ratio, no matter what you do.

it's like taking a 128kbps MP3 and converting it to 320kbps, the filesize would be much larger, but the sound quality is still really only 128kbps.

Another example is my version of The Yule Log I DVR'd off WPIX this year, it was in SD, but I have the option to "Stretch" it to 16:9 ratio.  So, it's not true 16:9 no matter how you look at it.

Wouldn't it be nice if somehow the original 1970 footage still existed somewhere and didn't end up on the cutting room floor, but instead they just made a copy of the 7+ minutes for the looping process?  Then too if Kaye Cooper were able to find a copy of the original 1966 footage, but I'm sure that would be 4:3 ratio.  Someone out there that worked for WPIX or one of their affiliates must have a copy of the 1966 broadcast and just don't realize that people might be interested in it or they are too old now and have forgotten about it.

I guess we can continue to wish that it is hiding somewhere just waiting to be rescued.

Thanks again


 

Thanks about answering my question if WPIX broadcast in 2 feeds.

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Re:Yule Log 2001 film scan resolution

Date Posted:12/29/2012 03:00:35Copy HTML


Susan,

That is precisely what our 2006 restoration of the Yule Log was all about. The only thing that WPIX had in their possession after 1989 was that paltry, badly edited-down 2-hour version of the program. A full hour had been edited out of the program over the years and lost on the cutting room floor. I had to reconstruct the complete original 3-hour program based on the various tape recordings of the Yule Log that I had accumulated in my archives over the years.
Click here to reacquaint yourself with our 2006 restoration, which was a very long, tedious and painstaking process.

As for the original 1966 footage, it was not near as brilliant as the 1970 re-shoot footage. The 1966 footage was only a 17-second loop shot on 16 millimeter film. The 1970 footage was a 7-minute loop shot on 35 millimeter film. In addition, the fireplace, mantle and decorations that were used in the 1970 re-shoot were far superior to those that were used in the original production that was filmed at Gracie Mansion. So finding the original 1966 footage someday would be interesting to see, but it will never replace the classic and iconic 1970 footage which is the legendary footage everyone today is familiar with.



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Date Posted:12/29/2012 03:11:25Copy HTML

Thank you Chip,

I pretty much remember you're explanation about the restoration process, but my mind has been pre-occupied.  As for the 1966 footage, I realize it was a 17 second loop and on 16mm film, but it would be interesting to see because 46 years is a long time to remember back and it would be nice if the soundtrack still existed. (or  the list  of songs) I believe there weren't as many artists as there were in 1970, and more songs by the main artists on the current soundtrack and I believe Andy Williams may have been on the original soundtrack, but again I am trying to rely on my memory and that was 46 years ago and I was only 8.

I guess mainly for nostalgia reasons would be why it would be nice to see the original 1966 broadcast again.  I understand it wouldn't be any near as good as today's program, but just the fact that it's from 1966 and part of my childhood that I don't remember vividly, but just certain flashes of memory, or "memory fragments"  Such as right now, I can see in my mind, the 5 of us, which included my mother sitting in front of the television watching the amazing burning fire right on the screen but I can't recall the exact music.

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Date Posted:12/29/2012 05:42:34Copy HTML


Actually Susan, the program's
soundtrack wasn't revamped until 1973; and that was the last substantive change to the program until 2009 when I added the new fourth hour.

As for Andy Williams, he was on the 1968 broadcast with Do You Hear What I Hear; and four years later on the 1972 broadcast with Silent Night.



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Wow, I'm surprised the 1970 version was shot in widescreen! Too bad folks involved didn't know that people in the future would actually be interested in accessing original elements (a la BBC and all of its earlier shows). And even if the '66 version is inferior, I'd love to see it.
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Thanks for the update Chip,

I know that you had mentioned that Andy Williams was on the sound track in the past and I do realize that there was some changes made again in 1973 because Christmas Is Christmas All Over The World by The Singing Angels that was added.  It's just so long ago that it is difficult to remember what songs were in the original broadcast and subsequent broadcasts until the changes in 1973 and then we know what changes were made in 2009 when you added the 4th. hour.

At the time, I could remember the songs in order and even expected to hear the specific song that was to be next until WPIX started butchering it down to 2 hours and changing the songs around.

I pretty much have the 3 hours burned into my mind but have to continue listening to get the 4th. hour burned into my mind.

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Hey Chip,

I hope all is well.  I was wondering if you had any information regarding the issue I raised last year (see below).  I get WPIX through DirecTV and last year I had the vertical black bars on the presentation.  I'm wondering if the problem lies with WPIX, DirecTV or me.  I really would love to have the full HD 1920x1080 presentation this year.

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I don't know, Patrick; I'll have to check with engineering.




Hey Chip,

I am curious...   I have a full HD (1920x1080) TV with DirecTV HD service and I still had the black vertical bars on the sides of the Yule Log broadcast.   I made sure that the HD receiver was in 1080 mode, but that didn't seem to be the issue.   Any idea of why this was the case??   Were those black bars intentionally added to make the video 1920x1080?   Did anyone else experience this as well?

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Patrick,

There was a technical issue with the national broadcast of the program on Antenna TV last year; however, engineering found the problem for me and everything should be fine this year.

Regarding the local broadcast of the program on WPIX, no problems were found by engineering; so the problem you experienced had to be related to your service provider.



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Hey Chip,
I hope all is well.  I guess I forgot to update this thread last year after the Yule Log broadcast.  Anyway, I did get the black bars again on WPIX via DirecTV.  It seems as if I am getting the SD broadcast with the black bars added by WPIX and then sent to my HD receiver as an HD broadcast.  I want the full 1920x1080 HD broadcast!  It would be awesome if you can contact WPIX engineering and find out why this is happening with DirecTV.  I am 99.999% sure I have everything set correctly on my end.  I watch HD broadcasts on WPIX all the time with no issues.  I am not sure why the most important of them all, the Yule Log, is giving me trouble.

Happy Holidays,

Patrick

PS: Anyone else experience this issue with DirecTV?!
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Patrick,

The source of the technical problem that you are experiencing is on the provider's end, not WPIX or Tribune.


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There should be black bars on the left and right sides (called pillarboxing).
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There should be black bars on the left and right sides (called pillarboxing) -bgart


Hey bgart,

The Yule Log is available in HD 1920x1080 resolution.  I have a DirecTV HD 1920x1080 receiver and TV.  Please elaborate on why you believe there should be black bars on the sides of the picture.

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Because it's not widescreen. HD resolution doesn't determine what aspect ratio is. It's meant to be 4:3 (or 1.33:1) aspect ratio, the shape of older tv screens. Movies were the same up until 1954. Something 4:3 can still be full HD resolution -- I've plenty of blu-ray discs of older films that are 4:3 and gorgeous.
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Patrick,

I have Dish Network as I have mentioned previously, and I do get WPIX, but only the SD feed being I am not anywhere near Manhattan, and with my receiver, if one of my HD channels is showing a program in SD/4:3 screen ratio, initially, I have Gray Bar, then Normal, which both have the bars only on the side.  Then I have Stretch, which fills the screen ratio to 16:9 and it doesn't really detract from the image quality.  Then there is Partial zoom and finally, Zoom which both cuts of the image on all four sides but the screen ratio is still 16:9 and doesn't detract from the quality of the image, but I don't know if DirecTV has the same capabilities as my TV.  I am enclosing 5 images to show what I mean.

I tried to upload them, but Aimoo would only let me upload one image and when I tried a second, it told me only available for Diamond Members or something, so I will have to use Photobucket.  Sorry about the gun from one of the images, but I was watching Dragnet 1970 when I took them,

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[quote]Then I have Stretch, which fills the screen ratio to 16:9 and it doesn't really detract from the image quality.[/quote]

...Except for distorting the picture, which I cannot stand.

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I don't really notice it that much, but if I leave it on normal for a 4:3 ratio program except sometimes for B&W programs, I didn't realize that when we were still Analog, that there was still part of the screen that wasn't visible, even if just a little, maybe 1/4 inch to 1/2 in all the way around on the four sides of the screen.  Usually if it was a Network station, part of their Logo was cut off because the TV screens weren't quite right to view the full area.

Also in 4:3 Ratio, there are the white dashes, which are in the over scan area, and they are used for closed captioning, teletext and other information.  I remember with the old Tube TV's, when the veritical hold was going and the picture would roll, that you could see that bar with the dashes on the screen. 

http://brokensecrets.com/2010/08/20/oversca/

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