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Tommer
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Date Posted:01/16/2020 02:58:21Copy HTML

Hi All,


I recently picked up an expanded copy of the album "Christmas Hymns and Carols" by The Robert Shaw Chorale. My version, the expanded version, has two bonus tracks listed:

9. Lo, How A Rose E'er Blooming

10. I Sing Of A Maiden


However, when I looked up the original releases of this album on discogs it appears as though "I Sing Of A Maiden" was always included in the track listing (ie it is not a bonus track). So my question: Is the error that the original album track listings were incorrect and the track was not included on the album, prior to the expanded edition OR was the fact it was called out as a bonus track on the expanded edition an error OR is it something else, an alternate version of the recording, for eg?


Thanks in advance


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Re:Robert Shaw: Christmas Hymns and Carols, Volume 1

Date Posted:01/16/2020 08:47:52Copy HTML


If you're talking about my expanded CD release of the album that I got out with Real Gone Music in 2016, then it is only myself who would be able to answer your question.

When Robert Shaw re-recorded Christmas Hymns And Carols, Volume 1 in stereo in 1957, he recorded all of the tracks; however, for some crazy, bizarre and inexplicable reason that nobody has ever been able to figure out -- and even SME (Sony Music Entertainment) can't explain -- is that "Lo How A Rose E'er Blooming" and "I Sing Of A Maiden" were only included on the mono version of the stereo recording (catalog LM-2139), and not the stereo LP release (catalog LSC-2139).

The enlarged picture of the back cover of the stereo LSC-2139 release bears this out as you can clearly see: "Lo How A Rose E'er Blooming" which was the middle song in Band 4 (Side 1) is missing; and "I Sing Of A Maiden" which was the middle song in Band 3 (Side 2) is missing.

Any website that claims these two songs were ever included on the LSC-2139 release is dead wrong. And that's why I added them as bonus tracks on the 2016 CD.

And for anyone confused as to why there were two releases of the same album, it was a common practice for the record companies to offer a mono version of new stereo released LPs for the folks who didn't yet have the new stereophonic equipment. The mono LPs were generally a dollar less than their superior stereo counterparts.


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Re:Robert Shaw: Christmas Hymns and Carols, Volume 1

Date Posted:01/17/2020 03:38:14Copy HTML

Wow! I knew I'd get an informed answer if I posted here but I wasn't expecting that level of detail. And yes, it looks like my version is a Real Gone Music release!


It didn't cross my mind to look for two different releases when looking up the original so I was probably looking at the track listing of the mono release . Thanks for clearing things up!

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Re:Robert Shaw: Christmas Hymns and Carols, Volume 1

Date Posted:01/17/2020 04:11:25Copy HTML


You could very well have been looking at a stereo listing for the album, as there are many websites out there that incorrectly show the mono track listing for the stereo LP.


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Re:Robert Shaw: Christmas Hymns and Carols, Volume 1

Date Posted:01/18/2020 02:46:03Copy HTML

Thanks for the follow up Chip.Yes, it turns out that is exactly what I was doing. Having not realized there were two different versions I assumed the first track listing I came across was the only one. After revisiting the discogs page it looks like the site does allow users to flag mono and stereo releases, but, at least in the case of this album, it appears most users do not.


Thanks again!




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