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Date Posted:02/16/2011 06:29:05Copy HTML
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Re:Gene Autry Date Posted:02/17/2011 09:56:30Copy HTML Yes Tim, I can help you. Gene Autry had five official Christmas LP releases: two were 10" LPs and three were 12" LPs. And of these five total LPs, two were original releases and three were reissues. The first was a 10" LP in 1950 called, Merry Christmas With Gene Autry. It was released by Columbia Records (catalog #CL-6137). The second was another 10" LP in 1955. It was also called, Merry Christmas With Gene Autry, and it was an abridged reissue of the 1950 10" LP. It was released on Columbia's "House Party" series label with two less songs than the original LP: He's A Chubby Little Fellow and Santa, Santa, Santa. (Columbia Records "House Party" catalog #CL-2547.) The third was a 12" LP in 1957 called, Gene Autry Sings Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer (& other Christmas Favorites). It was released by Grand Prix Records (catalog #KX-11 for mono and #KS-X11 for stereo). This album resides in the 2nd Tier of my Top 300 (album #236). In 2006 Varese Sarabande Records released the LP on CD with all of the tracks digitally remastered and with the original album cover artwork: Click here. The fourth was a 12" LP in 1964 called, The Original Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer And Other Children's Christmas Favorites. This album was a reissue of the material contained on the previously released 1950 and 1955 Columbia 10" LPs. It also included Christmas songs he did with Rosemary Clooney in the 1950s that had been originally released as singles. It was released by Columbia Records on their subsidiary Harmony Records label (catalog #HL-9550 for mono and HS-14550 for simulated/re-channeled stereo). This album resides in the 2nd Tier of my Top 300 (album #235). In 2004 Varese Sarabande Records released a complete anthology of Mr. Autry's Columbia Christmas recordings with all of the tracks digitally remastered: Click here. The fifth was a 12" LP in 1981 called, Everyone's A Child At Christmas. It was another reissue of the material contained on the 1950 and 1955 Columbia 10" LPs. It was released on the Columbia Special Products label in simulated/re-channeled stereo (catalog #15767). All of the selections on this reissue LP are also included on the Varese Sarabande anthology CD that I mentioned above. There were many other Christmas songs that Gene Autry recorded over the years which were only released as singles. Among them was Santa's Comin' In A Whirlybird. Republic Records released it in 1959, with the flipside being Jingle Bells. Also released in 1959 as a single by Republic Records was Nine Little Reindeer, with the flipside being Buon Natale. All of these songs are available on another great Varese Sarabande CD; a compilation released in 1999 called Here Comes Santa Claus: Click here. That's the entire story of Gene Autry's official Christmas releases. Please be aware that there have been numerous smaller record labels that have reissued his Christmas material on LP over the years (especially the Grand Prix recordings), but the ones I mentioned are the original and official releases by Columbia and Gran Prix Records. ![]() ![]() Lawrence F. "Chip" Arcuri
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Re:Gene Autry Date Posted:02/24/2011 06:43:48Copy HTML
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Re:Gene Autry Date Posted:02/25/2011 10:54:38Copy HTML
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Re:Gene Autry Date Posted:02/26/2011 12:37:56Copy HTML Sorry Chip, I guess our definitions of "official" and "original" are different. My definition of an official or original album is a number of "all new" recordings for a "specific" album, not one or two new songs with a collection of previous singles like the '45 Crosby and the '48 Sinatra. When you spoke of the 1950 Autry album I wrongly assumed it contained all new material specifically for that album. So the 1957 album is the only one that fits my description of "official" or "original" and thats what I was getting at. By the way, was there cover art for that 1950 album as there was for the above mentioned Crosby and Sinatra sets. Thanks. Tim. |
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Re:Gene Autry Date Posted:02/26/2011 02:56:09Copy HTML Tim, In the second to last sentence of your post of 02/24/11, I wasn't sure what you meant when you said: "This 1950 album seems never to have existed as far as cover art." If I take it literally to mean that you doubt album artwork ever existed, then don't, because of course it did. As I said in my post of 02/17/11, this 10" LP was Mr. Autry's first official Christmas album, and the Columbia Records catalog number for the disc was #CL-6137. It would be totally absurd for a record company to release an album without a cover. And even though I don't have a jpeg of it to display, I can unequivocally assure you that it did indeed exist. As for Bing Crosby and Frank Sinatra; yes, Sinatra had a 10" Christmas LP in 1948 called Christmas Songs By Sinatra (Columbia catalog #CL-6019); however Crosby's first 10" Christmas LP was not released until 1949, not 1945. In fact, there were two Bing 10" Christmas LPs released that year in 1949: Merry Christmas (Decca catalog #DL-5019) and Christmas Greetings (Decca catalog #DL-5020). The original 1945 release of Bing's classic Merry Christmas album was as a 5-record 78 rpm set. Here is the release history of this legendary album: *1945: First release of Merry Christmas was as a 5-record 78 rpm set that had a total of 10 songs (Decca catalog #A-403). *1947: Re-released as a 4-record 78 rpm set with the same cover, but only 8 songs. The 2 songs that Decca deleted from this reissue were Danny Boy and Let's Start The New Year Right (Decca catalog #A-550). *1949: Re-released as a 45 rpm box set and also as a 10" LP (Decca catalog #DL-5019). *1955: Re-released as a 12" LP on the all-black Decca label. This was the first release to sport the now-famous cover of Bing with the Santa hat (Decca catalog #DL-8128). *1960: Reissue of the above 12" LP on the black label with color bars (same catalog number as above), and also release of an electronically re-channeled (simulated) stereo version of the recording (Decca catalog #DL-78128). *1973: Reissue of above 12" LP by MCA Records on the black label with rainbow (MCA catalog #15024). It was later released on the blue (sky) label with rainbow (same catalog number, #15024). ![]() Lawrence F. "Chip" Arcuri
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Re:Gene Autry Date Posted:02/26/2011 06:02:19Copy HTML
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Re:Gene Autry Date Posted:02/26/2011 08:25:37Copy HTML I'm not sure what source told you that Columbia Records doesn't have the 1950 Gene Autry LP in their discography, but it isn't a very reliable one at all. Columbia Records catalog #CL-6137 is indeed an official release, and that's a bona fide fact that can't be disputed. As for the Gene Autry website, even these sites that are sometimes run by family members are many times wrong. In fact, it was I who pointed out to Eleanor and Kurt Anderson (wife and son of the great composer/conductor Leroy Anderson) that the Christmas album Christmas Carols was released first (1955) and that A Christmas Festival was released second (1959). Unfortunately, in the bio-bibliography that Mrs. Anderson helped to compile (click here) it erroneously states that the album Christmas Carols was a reissue of A Christmas Festival, and that the release year is unknown! It's actually listed in the book with a release year of 196-?, when in fact it was released in 1955. It really astounds me that this error could have been made considering the catalog numbers for the LPs clearly show which one came first: DL-8193 for Christmas Carols and DL-8925 for A Christmas Festival. It just proves once again the old adage that you can't believe everything you read. ![]() Lawrence F. "Chip" Arcuri
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Re:Gene Autry Date Posted:02/27/2011 05:08:21Copy HTML
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Re:Gene Autry Date Posted:12/22/2017 08:30:44Copy HTML
What's the story with the 1957 compilation Christmastime with Gene Autry (Challenge CHL-600)? Is it a reissue of all the 1957 Grand Prix recordings found on the Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer & Other Christmas Favorites LP? If so, what versions of "Silver Bells" and "Up on the House Top" are those?
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Re:Gene Autry Date Posted:12/22/2017 12:37:38Copy HTML ![]() ![]() That Challenge Records' Christmas Time With Gene Autry 10-song LP (catalog #CHL-600) was not a compilation, but rather the original incarnation of the Grand Prix Records' repackaged and expanded 12-song LP Gene Autry Sings Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer (& other Christmas Favorites) (catalog #KX-11 for mono and #KSX-11 for stereo). For the Grand Prix expanded edition, the four songs added were "Nine Little Reindeer," "We Wish You A Merry Christmas," "Away In A Manger," and "What Child Is This." Unfortunately, however, two songs were not kept for the repackaged LP; those songs were "Silver Bells" and "Santa Claus Is Coming To Town." The version of the album that is represented in my Top 500 list (album #236) is the expanded 1957 edition. By the way, the exact release year of the original is in dispute, but my belief is that it preceded the repackaged and expanded edition by no more than one or two years. When Varese Sarabande released the album on CD in 2006, they released the 1957 expanded edition. The Gene Autry website offers for purchase a Red vinyl LP edition of this classic 1957 album, click here. ![]() ![]() Lawrence F. "Chip" Arcuri
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Re:Gene Autry Date Posted:12/22/2017 09:05:03Copy HTML
Wow. That really is confusing. So was Grand Prix a subsidiary label of Challenge?
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Re:Gene Autry Date Posted:12/23/2017 02:13:06Copy HTML Chip -
Has there been a legitimate CD release of the original Challenge Records "Christmastime with Gene Autry?" I do have the CD release from Varese Sarabande of the expanded 1957 version of the album, but I miss those two songs that were cut from it! The original version of the album is what I grew up with, so I guess those ten tracks in the original running order have something of a sentimental value to me. I own a CD that has all the tracks from the original album, however - in my opinion - the sound quality is horrendous, one of the tracks is out of order (causing the narration between songs to be off), and the song "Sleigh Bells" is misidentified on both the CD and the back cover insert as "Sleigh Ride." This CD is more than twenty years old and was manufactured by LDMI in Canada (CDY-9932), titled "Christmas with Gene Autry." I have a hard time believing this could have been any kind of authorized release. Do you know of a single collection that includes all ten of the original "Christmastime with Gene Autry" tracks in decent audio quality? I love the sound of the Varese Sarabande release, but would really like to have the two missing tracks in comparable quality. Then I could reconstruct my own digital version of the original Challenge Records album. Thanks! |
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Re:Gene Autry Date Posted:12/23/2017 05:52:07Copy HTML John: Yes, it can be very confusing. This phenomenon of a Christmas album being released and then so quickly being pulled off production, repackaged and re-released happened very rarely. The other two most notable examples are with The Jack Halloran Singers and Nat King Cole. With Jack Halloran, in 1957, Dot Records released his Christmas album called Christmas Is A-Comin'. It was recorded in stereo, but only released in mono because the Westrex cutting head, which allowed for the mass-production of stereophonic vinyl discs, was not yet available to the record companies, and wouldn't be until 1958. In addition, the album included a song that at that time was still known as "Carol Of The Drum." But then, the next year, in 1958, Harry Simeone took the song and pretty much the same arrangement, re-recorded it and released it as "The Little Drummer Boy." Well, as everyone knows, it became a gigantic hit. So, as a result, in 1959, Dot records pulled Halloran's Christmas album off production, changed the name of the song on the album from "Carol Of The Drum" to "The Little Drummer Boy," made it the first song on the album, and then re-released it with new artwork and new album title of The Little Drummer Boy (to capitalize on the popularity of the song). Oh, and the album was also finally released for the first time in stereo, now that Dot Records had finally acquired the aforementioned newly invented Westrex cutting head. And with Nat King Cole, in 1960, Capitol Records released his Christmas album Christmas Magic. But then, in 1961, Nat recorded in Hollywood (after three previous recorded versions) his now classic stereo version of "The Christmas Song." So, in 1962, Capitol pulled his Christmas album off production, repackaged it by deleting the song "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen," adding the 1961 stereo version of "The Christmas Song," and then re-released the album with new artwork and new album title of The Christmas Song (to capitalize on the popularity of the song). By the way, as to your question about Grand Prix Records; no, it was not a subsidiary label of Challenge, but rather Pickwick. ![]() Brian: Varese Sarabande has a compilation CD that they released in 1999 called Here Comes Santa Claus, but it doesn't have "O Little Town Of Bethlehem" on it; click here. ![]() Lawrence F. "Chip" Arcuri
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