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Date Posted:01/02/2021 11:50:48Copy HTML Happy New Year to all. I found an old post here about discussing issue dates of LSS albums, so I thought I'd ask the experts here - can anyone point me to information on who actually did the chorale and orchestral recordings? Specifically I am interested in albums called Christmas at the Fireside, and the Sweet Voices of Christmas, which I grew up with and are very special to my family (early to mid 60's I believe). Fireside in particular is very tastefully done and features (IMO) high quality arrangements on par with many of the great Yule Log tracks (I've bought other LSS recordings which that were sub-par, but this one truly shines). I've only turned up two leads in searching the internet: A comment in a review stated that Robert Farnon may have directed/arranged the Fireside recordings (no evidence/source was cited). Then last year a video I posted to facebook with the album playing in the background got flagged because FB thought it was a Robert Shaw Chorale recording. I have some of of Shaw's Christmas albums and I don't hear anything identical to Fireside. Complicating matters, I know they mixed, matched and reused recordings all over the place (LSS was a marketing group rather than an actual orchestra, and the music was either purchased or outsourced) so these collections could have been from multiple sessions/arrangers. But I do hear a lot of similarities in the vocalists and arrangements that make me think Fireside was from 1 or 2 sessions from from very good groups/directors. Sweet Voices is a Childrens choir, so that is definitely a different group - still very good though. Any info or resources much appreciated. Thanks, Steve |
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Christmas Music Guru | Share to: #1 |
Re:Longines Symphonette Society (Revisited) Date Posted:01/06/2021 08:22:21Copy HTML Yes Steve, information about the LSS recordings is indeed scarce. However, the most renowned LSS recording ever made by far was the one done by the great Mantovani in 1972 entitled, Christmas Eve Favorites. How they managed to sign a great maestro like Mantovani to arrange and conduct this album, I'll never know. The album resides in the 3rd Tier of my Top 500, coming in at #287 (click here). Lawrence F. "Chip" Arcuri
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KingofJingaling | Share to: #2 |
Re:Longines Symphonette Society (Revisited) Date Posted:01/16/2021 11:17:49Copy HTML Both Christmas at the Fireside and The Sweet Voices of Christmas were released on CD in 2001 from a company called Yestermusic. I have both of them. And there really isn't any additional information in the jewel cases. The one does say "The Symphonette was conducted by Michel Piastro, a noted violinist and musician." Here's the Discogs entry for the CD. I know that several of the tracks from the LP Chip mentioned above made it onto the Christmas at the Fireside collection, though not all of them. I believe Chip has a post/thread somewhere on here with a list of the Society's Christmas releases. I once considered going through them all to make a definitive listing of song versions and where they were re-released, etc. but I think I lost steam for the project. |
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Steve_G | Share to: #3 |
Re:Longines Symphonette Society (Revisited) Date Posted:01/17/2021 04:16:40Copy HTML This is very helpful, actually. I took a listen to Christmas Eve Favorites and As King of Jingalong notes, about half the recordings overlap with Christmas at the Fireside. Could this mean Montavani did some of these recordings? For reference, the full Christmas at the Fireside is here in it’s entirely, soundtracking a home made Yule Log I created for my parents with the fireplace from their old house. The Michael Piastro reference is interesting. I found his Obit in The NY Times and it does mention he conducted the Longines Symphonette as heard on 200+ radio stations. I wonder if that refers an earlier incarnation of the symphonette which was broadcast on WOR in the 40s-50s and was (as I recall) actually associated with Longines watch company. From info I have pieced together that entity was different from the Symphonette Society, which was characterized as a marketing company packaging and selling recordings of varied quality. It may be possible the liner notes for the CD sourced the Michael Piastro reference from this obituary. I have multiple copies of the LP set, and there are no mentions of his name, or any other notes or credits (unfortunately). I greatly appreciate the responses. (Note - I created the referenced video for personal use, and it’s not public, Of course I don’t own the rights to this - if posting it here violates any rules, pls let me know and I’ll remove). |
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JonPTN | Share to: #4 |
Re:Longines Symphonette Society (Revisited) Date Posted:02/01/2021 12:03:19Copy HTML Hello Steve: Happy New Year...let's hope it's a good one...we made it through January so, keep hope alive! Regarding the Longines Symphonette Society releases, I inherited a TON from my folks who were ardent members. As has been mentioned here, they were a kind of Columbia Music House/RCA Music Club of its day with mostly collections of various instrumental and orchestral numbers that 'sounded' like a lot of other musicians and orchestras. Their 'best' collections (included Orson Welles "War of the Worlds' broadcast in LP form as well as a lot of public domain 'stuff) included 2 very good Christmas collections.... Longines Fireside Front.jpeg.jpg Longines Fireside inside 1jpeg.jpg Christmas at the Fireside and Longines Christmas Treasury inside 3.jpeg.jpg Longines Christmas Treasury inside 1 jpeg.jpg Longines Christmas Treasury inside 2 .jpeg.jpg Longines Christmas Treasury front.jpeg.jpg Longines Christmas inside 4.jpeg.jpg Christmas Treasury....some of these even sound like other orchestras and Choirs (i.e. Robert Shaw etc). Similar to my New Jersey beginnings with Peter Pan Records of Newark, there seem to have been a fair amount of Vocalists, Choirs and even small orchestras who 'sounded' like others...I will say that I still consider certain tracks here to be among my favorite versions of these songs as along with my Mother's Perry Como collection, I recall warmly hearing these tracks come out via vinyl on my parents Magnavox I will keep researching for Longines Symphonette and let you know. Enjoy the New Year! regards, Jim from Tennessee |
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Steve_G | Share to: #5 |
Re:Longines Symphonette Society (Revisited) Date Posted:02/14/2021 12:02:38Copy HTML Hi Jim, Thanks for the info - those vinyl sets look exactly like the Christmas at the Fireside I grew up with. I have two vinyl copies now, but mostly use the imported CD version I got from https://christmaslpstocd.com/ Also, two interesting things to note
Glad to hear any further info you can uncover. |
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Christmas Always | Share to: #6 |
Re:Longines Symphonette Society (Revisited) Date Posted:02/16/2021 03:09:45Copy HTML Back around 1972, The Longines Symphonette Society had a record club where you could actually get a receiver and turntable for free if you signed up for purchasing their records. I There are a few other Christmas releases from The Longines Symphonette Society. Silver Bells, Christmas In Song, C4-T17
The Family Christmas Treasury 'Twas The Night Before Christmas There may be a few more but at the moment I can't remember. Christmas Isn't Just A Day In December, It's A Way Of Life.
Susan
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JonPTN | Share to: #7 |
Re:Longines Symphonette Society (Revisited) Date Posted:02/19/2021 12:33:24Copy HTML A few more Longines items: longines-mantovani-form-letter.jpg I have more if interested, we can trade emails. Cheers! Have a good week, stay warm! |
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Steve_G | Share to: #8 |
Re:Longines Symphonette Society (Revisited) Date Posted:02/19/2021 03:25:28Copy HTML Great info and pictures - thanks everyone. I have one Christmas collection not pictured called The Joy of Christmas. It has some overlap with Fireside but also some other tracks that didn’t impress me as much. I also have a non Christmas collection called Evening Serenade. I didn’t realize they also compiled those Shell albums. Very popular back in the day. Love the ads and letter from Mantovani. |
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CluelessInSeattle | Share to: #9 |
Re:Longines Symphonette Society (Revisited) Date Posted:02/23/2021 06:40:27Copy HTML Thanks a million Susan, Steve and Jim, for those photos of the album jackets, memorabilia and the stereo receiver! Makes me wish I had a time machine so I could go back and join the Longines Symphonette Society. I would've been thrilled to have one of those receivers. And I'd love to see page 2 of that Mantovani letter. Will in Seattle a.k.a. "Clueless" Will in Seattle
a.k.a. "Clueless"
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Christmas Always | Share to: #10 |
Re:Longines Symphonette Society (Revisited) Date Posted:02/25/2021 07:52:07Copy HTML You are all very welcome. I agree that I wish I had a time machine to go back into time and get one of these receivers. I actually had a few that Reader's Digest put out in the 1970's. I believe there were made by Morse Electrophonic. They had a receiver-turntable combo and also an 8-track receiver combo. I don't remember how people got them, if they had to buy some boxed-set records or what, but a company I worked for as a secretary would be the ones to do repairs on them. The turntable-receiver came with a smokey dust cover. I had high hopes of having this one put into a TV Console cabinet that we had but was missing the turntable-receiver, but never got it done lol Christmas Isn't Just A Day In December, It's A Way Of Life.
Susan
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CluelessInSeattle | Share to: #11 |
Re:Longines Symphonette Society (Revisited) Date Posted:02/26/2021 03:47:36Copy HTML Thanks, Susan! Those photos come pretty darned close to having a time machine. Will in Seattle
a.k.a. "Clueless"
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Christmas Always | Share to: #12 |
Re:Longines Symphonette Society (Revisited) Date Posted:02/26/2021 02:01:05Copy HTML You are most welcome Will, I think in many ways, these units were far superior to some of the audio equipment that we have out there today. Their design and quality. I would love to get my hands on the second one again. The Garrard turntables were really nice. Yes, they weren't belt-driven, but still usually didn't fail as much as the belt drive ones. Often the belt would stretch and wouldn't spin correctly. Christmas Isn't Just A Day In December, It's A Way Of Life.
Susan
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Steve_G | Share to: #13 |
Re:Longines Symphonette Society (Revisited) Date Posted:03/05/2021 03:50:49Copy HTML Thanks everyone - great stuff you have collectivley dug up. Sue - those readers digest components look very much like the Longines received. I'd guess they were made by the same company. Last I checked on ebay, there was one still available there. Not sure who made these, but agree its possible they sound better than the dry/overprocessed sourround sound systems everyone seems to have these days. Esp with good speakers. I'm very lucky that I recently acquired.a Fisher receiver dating to 1963. I'm still fine tuning the setup but so far it sounds amazing. (side note: I will have input from the TV so I play the yule log through it on Christmas morning, with speakers in two rooms!). I also have my mom's Garrard turntable (late 60's maybe) that I plan to have restored and hook up to it down the road. Those Fireside records will finally get another spin! |
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Christmas Always | Share to: #14 |
Re:Longines Symphonette Society (Revisited) Date Posted:03/05/2021 08:45:41Copy HTML Steve, The one with the turntable was made my Morse/Electrophonic not sure about the second one. Christmas Isn't Just A Day In December, It's A Way Of Life.
Susan
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JonPTN | Share to: #15 |
Re:Longines Symphonette Society (Revisited) Date Posted:08/19/2021 03:10:48Copy HTML Hello All, hope you are all staying cool... Here is another Longines item I recently found. This was a pillow speaker that was included as part of some LP purchases. Mine no longer works but I kept this just the same. Have a good rest of the week. Regards, Jim Allen formerly from north Jersey West Tennessee |
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CluelessInSeattle | Share to: #16 |
Re:Longines Symphonette Society (Revisited) Date Posted:08/20/2021 02:05:12Copy HTML I bet you could get it working again; it's probably just a loose or broken wire.
Will in Seattle
a.k.a. "Clueless"
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